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Peter Grindrod's avatar

Last Friday, on Radio 4 PM Programme, one of the objectors was interviewed and she failed to land any blows at all. Perhaps her best argument was that the ID would create a vulnerable data asset that might be hacked by (unnamed) malevolent actors. She certianly wanted an opt out (an act of self harm IMHO). There was no coherent argument against other than an idea of "personal choice" being fine, but any "enforcement" being not fine. She also deployed the "slippery slope" argument, without any realistic scenario (but see below, for one such).

Consider the following: you cannot really get anywhere these days without a smart phone, a driving licence, a passport, and an NI number. Consequently you really need an Apple ID and iPay, or a Google Wallet, which in turn require Face ID and Touch ID. The benefits of these services to all citizen users are obvious.

We are moving towards a cashless society now, with a generational OAP lag for some that will need to be managed (as in China already). The benefits to citizens are so obvious. Users clamour to opt-in every day, choosing to do so. Excited by the impacts and opportunities these innovations bring into their lives. We all move (fairly) seamlessly through both public sector and commercial services, with our ID established and subscriptions, payments, media consumption, travel, and ticketing. These days the NHS app is improving access to information and ordering repeat prescriptions.

So your own ID data is held by your banking and payment mechanisms, by your digital service providers (commercial, not public, and mostly US), your media providers, your email and WhatsApp accounts, your state NI + passport + driving licencing; the UK Government Gateway for HMRC; your NHS number; your DVLA car tax; your pensions; your energy and utility providers, and so on. Your employer probably knows the least! All of this is digital - and increasingly the non-digital option is being left behind (a new form of second class citizenship - of self-harm). Digital inclusion is more important than any Cnut-like holding back and hand wringing.

In fact, the objectors should better focus on who can store and examine personal biometric data (which are not completely the property of an individual, being partly shared by close kin), rather than any ID data. They are tilting at the wrong windmill because they aren't properly (technically) au fait; and are ignorant at worst.

Biometric data, such as the UK Passport database and the DVLA database, which are linked and both contain facial images (which is demonstrably shared between them, sideways), is a big further step, and it is discoverable and examinable for purposes that ill defined by the police. Even the police DNA data base for anybody arrested is a concern as deletion required by law isn't automatic as it should be. On the other hand many historical crimes (from decades ago) are resolved when some kin of the perpetrators are put onto the DNA database (I am saying that while fingerprints are unique to the individual, DNA and facial features are not). Professor Serious certainly looks like his brother! Just sayin'

Jon Crowcroft's avatar

Lots of good points - like data minimisation, and also exemplar of Estonian System. Just to also support that not all government projects are bad - DVLA (which includes a form of id) was a big win, and points the way. What I question is a) whether it would actually simplify citizens lives and b) whether it would actually reduce government costs much at all - the big wins were simply going digital (as we have for NHS, HMRC, DVLA etc). So unifying sign-on is only a win for the services if there's some data joins they can then usefully do, but that flies in the face of privacy and data minimisation. For the user, unifying sign on can just be hidden in a wallet app - you don't need to have one id - you just need a nice federated service - I already use such tech for many things. The argument (made in some quarters) it will solve small boats/illegal immigrants is 100% BS - legal immigrants already get a digital identifier from the home office which they show for entitlement (to work, healthcare, accommodation etc). Else we have NI, etc... what I'm failing to see is a proper analysis of the actual cost/benefit that would preceded any such large project in a sensible business (due diligence too:-)

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